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PostSubject: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:26 pm

engine/mechanics is mine

if i do ss2... it will prolly go mainstream, meaning that we'll have to incorporate the thought process that ppl outside the "shin family" will be there
so w/that in mind, i figured i'd open my mind to see if any of the family who pledged to rp there had any idea/preferences for the storyline
i have a default one thunk up in my head that i'll go w/if yall don't come up w/something that's cool, can include ppl outside of the shinists, and most of us like
way i see it, there are a few routes we can go

1) continue where SS1 left off
i wouldn't advise this one b/c it's kinda inclusive to just us. other's probably won't 'get it.' and ss1 had a lot of plot holes, etc.

2) create new storyline based off of bleach
this can be done pre ichigo (complication filled), post ichigo (like from where bleach left off, or far off in the future), or alternative realm (i.e. another reality where something changes to make it diff from the anime/manga)

post as much as you want about your idea. the more content the better.
don't post saying someone else's idea is dumb (but you can post suggestions to build on it)
we'll gauge whether ppl like it or dislike it w/the +\- rating on the upper right of each post
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:16 pm

Honestly, I'd love to see SS2 take off after SS1. Not so much right where it left off, but X years in the future.

After the destruction of Karakura town and such, Hollows became more common slowly over the years. As they became more of a menace the world had to evolve to combat this new threat, allowing for government agencies to hunt them down. Or just keep a simple standing bounty for those willing to hunt them.

I know there were several anti-hollow organizations. Hell Haruka's Temple of Five Elements was a player idea. They were training those of spiritual potential to be Hollow hunters and protectors of the world. After the destruction and Hollows becoming rampant it wouldn't be hard to imagine these places getting lots of funding or attention.

The Soul Society wouldn't be as affected as Earth with all of this, I would imagine. Hollows becoming more common on Earth would force them to take more measures there, but would allow them to retake ground in their realm. Or lose ground there, or something.

But this would allow for those of us familiar to continue with the ideas we had for characters. Or characters that survived could become teachers.

I had suggested, waaaaaay back when, a 'sensei' system where you do a specialized training under a teacher. Which means that on top of your normal bonuses to your training you'd get 'extras' under a teacher. This suggests training with people like how Ichigo trains with Urahara, then Yoruichi, and such. Different teachers offer different bonuses to your training. Skills, stats, whatever the approved version is.

This would allow us to continue our world while allowing those that were new to it, to come in at a point that would be perfectly open to them.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:02 pm

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There may be a way to have the cake and eat it too. The issue comes up that if we embed too much of the original content into what’s supposed to be a Bleach site then it’s going to turn off the primary fan base of the genre. Original ideas don’t generally do as well as mainstream ideas. Thus, instead of ‘continuing’ the storyline for SS1, I believe that SS2 should be its own site in concept and name. In this way, you can still gleam aspects from SS1 that can be incorporated into a new storyline that is aimed more towards Bleach. Including the back story for SS1 would be overkill because that’s a lot of content that people wouldn’t care about. It would be something more along the lines of:

Something occurred during Ichigo’s battle with Aizen that caused them both to vanish with the destruction of Karakura Town.

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After the battle with Aizen, Soul Society entered a period of peace for thousands of years. An event caused chaos and a rise in hollow activity orchestrated by something big (like a program created by Aizen to use his DNA to clone himself after a period of time) which ended in the destruction of Karakura Town.

That way, we’re basically around the same circumstances as the end of SS1. From there, we can merge ideals, such as the creation of organizations to combat the Hollows, etc. At least, that’s my two cents on this initial suggestion.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:22 pm

I agree with Kano. Involving too much of SS1 will have the site dieing within the first week. Mainly I mean all we did. But I do think alot of the races should remain intact along with possibly the gunslengers. I always thought they were a cool idea. I loved making my anrokku also. Gave a sense of a personal style.

For story wise...No clue how to take it. The second idea from Kano sounds like a good possibility that can be tweaked.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:33 am

I'd have to agree as well. SS1 was great and all, but continuing on with it will leave man except those who had been apart of it lost to the wind and the site would diminish down to the very small few instead of growing like we desire.

I dunno what you have for SS2 though so I can only imagine you added some of the new things that had even popped up in the series like the Human abilities of the Fullbring.

The advancements to the Quincy's as well with the current thing thats going on in the manga with the new abilities of the Quincy.

though as Shiori stated, I also agree about keeping the classes we had, the anrokku, the gunslengers, makes it all the more fun, we will have Bleach with a touch of our own into the site.

As far as Storyline goes I personally would like if we jumped ahead of the series that way we dont have to worry about the issue with ichigo and aizen, or even the shinigami/ quincy war and just start our own thing with a Bleach flavor. We will have our freedom to use the characters from the series as we please and make our own story which can be influenced by the members.

For what we should go by as a storyline itself, I'll think on it a bit more and then get back to you.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:58 am

As someone that didn't play SS but looked at it, and have read the story line following to SS2 and seeing that the anime is now over. (I haven't read any of the mange) The story line made a lot of ??? pop up over my head. This is what cause me to not play SS to start with and I didn't really get the character building system.

Beast store line to me would be one after the ending of the anime. Most likely after the life time of the human cast members of Bleach. There are a lot of unexplained thing in the Bleach story to work off of. Aizen could escape some how, (He is still getting stronger just at a much slower rate) an unknown person could try to pick up where Aizen failed. Whatever you go with just remember the closer people can relate to something the easier it will to RP.


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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:40 pm

Another idea would be..Look at how they make the movies to Bleach. Those things don't even relate to the anime or manga storyline. They are their own little Alternate Universe storys set in canon.

Maybe take it like that. Use Bleach but have our own like SS was. Maybe have it based many years after. Ichigo could be one of the Captains since his human life is over. Could keep a couple of the canons on as Captains, but open up a couple of captains to the players as well. It could be a whole revamped idea to SS. More that Ichigo is but a legend whispered among those who fight hollows in the material realm. Could have a new Aizen-like charry pop up. I mean...Like I said look to the Bleach movies for some insight on how we could make bad guys to screw with everyone. Its like DBZ..Bleach never runs out of new more powerful bad guys.

I think I'll stop my babbling there. But I'm super excited for something like this. I missed getting new stuff. Maybe after revamping SS...WOTR could make a revamp comeback..lmao!!
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:33 pm

remember to use your pluses and minuses ppl (rep!) xD
@ pal - i like the idea of member locations. some sites have story tellers who are like npcs coordinators but progress certain parts of a storyline. we might be able to use them w/this capacity to help mix in original and canon properties. o course, this would work w/our original organizations too.
@ kyro - good insight on a possible compromise
@ ms. kyro - ola. long time no see the anrokku was something i just made up to try to explain chad and inoue. is the correct term "fullbring" and not what i made? i didn't know if that's what bleach's storyline used to explain them or not?
@ kagugu - so it seems as a group, we're leaning towards a new site with elements from SS1. i think that's a good thing. has the manga stopped? jumping to the future might be a good direction.
@ rek - ya ss1 was an attempt to be liberal w/original content that was bleach flavored. tbh, i probably wasn't the best one to make a bleach site since i've just recently got caught up w/the series... probably b/c it's finally over now. at least anime wise.
@ ms. kyro - very good insight. i never thought how the bleach movies did it. and fillers too. i'd be interested in seeing what others think about this idea.

keep it coming guys. we're all leaning towards a certain way. lemme know if you think mixing ss1/bleach works, or if another alt (which basically would mix ss1 and bleach) would work better. almost seems like they'd do the same thing. once we get that out the way, we can start building the storyline. who stays, who goes, what original/ss1 NPCs/locations do we keep, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:18 pm

Okay so I did some research since I stopped reading the manga when the Fullbrings came in. I honestly feel like the manga is going all DBZ with it..Peace! then suddenly..OMG new enemy and he's even more powerful than the last!!

Anyways. Fullbrings are not what Chad and Orihime are...

Fullbringers each have a parent who was attacked by a Hollow before they were born. Traces of the Hollows' powers remained in their mothers' bodies, which were then passed onto them when they were born. Thus, the powers resemble those of Hollows more than they resemble that of a Shinigami's.

Fullbring (完現術 (フルブリング), Furuburingu; lit. "Full Manifestation Art"): Unlike other powers, the Fullbring abilities do not and cannot change through growth. However, Fullbringers must progress to a certain level before they can use their abilities to their fullest. As such, the Fullbring of a user that has not reached such a level appears to be different, and can be considered "incomplete". When the Fullbring reaches its full potential and evolves to their final stage, it will emit a violent burst of energy that can damage the user's body. Therefore, another Fullbring user is required to oversee the process in order to block the explosion and prevent the recently complete Fullbring from damaging its user. Fullbringers also have the ability to trade and share their powers with other Fullbringers or Substitute Shinigami. When a Fullbringer dies, all traces of their ability will disappear.


This is what a Fullbringer is. So I think we can see them as a new race for the new SS. I looked to see if they had a name for Orihime or Chad and couldn't find on. So Anrokku can stay if we want. I'd really like if we did keep alot of the race aspects we had from SS1. Gives a personal touch to creativity but lets the old members kinda have that nostalgia from SS1.

Oh and here's the link I got this from so you can get abilities for the race page: http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Fullbringer

Anyways moving on. Like I said before I looked through how the manga is going and again I'm glad I didn't keep reading. I would have just gotten pissed..At least Naruto is now just tying up things you've always wondered about since the beginning of it. Bleach is just like..NEW SHIT! Lmao. Okay so I think if we involve more Bleach canon than before we should take it from the end of Aizen. Possibly have that hollow activity sort of increased without Aizen and his Arrancar there in Huenco Mundo as the 'rulers' in a sense. Have it set more in the future. Have Ichigo dead by that point. Possibly have that Ichigo started his own group of fighters with Orihime, Chad and Uryuu by his side to train those with powers that could manifest. THis made an earth force that would go 'public' near the time Ichigo was much older and nearing the time he would soon report to Soul Society to finally take his place as a captain.

So its many years later (you decide) and the 'earth' (mainly Tokyo, maybe have it be like the nation of Tokyo and Karakura is apart of this united force) has its own defenses, though not too large. Aizen has been locked away this whole time..Maybe have his blade escape and take its own form, as an extension of Aizen (who is mainly forgotten by all as he rots in his cell). Hollow activity sudden skyrockets and there is stirring in the depths of Huanco Mundo. The creatures are something new. Not arrancar..but a new kind of hollow. Faster, smarter, more powerful. They have more of a humaniod shape to them but are like a cross of that and a creature so that they are frightening to gaze at. Maybe there is a sudden, devestating 'bomb' that goes off in the currently peaceful Soul Society, leveling a good portion of it an making the barrier within it crack, weakening it.

Back to the material world. THe humans have gone into their own kind of peaceful lull and the forces Ichigo created are smaller in number than they were many years ago. Forces are being stretched thin with this new wave of hollows. But now they are being picked off a bit thanks to their own 'laziness'. So its time for a new generation to rise up and fight for the people and discover just who this new 'King' is that wants to just watch them all suffer and burn to cleanse the world.

I know. I got a bit carried away. But it had to get written before I lost the idea.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:22 pm

I'd love to see some of the original organizations/locations in the game. A 'wink' at the old SS. As shin said we could do this and still be in the same universe. Nobody knows what would come to exist in the far future.

If we're not going with the same SS universe then I think the distant future with cannon characters dead or something would work best. Cata's idea on the setting is very good, because it would force new people to come along and learn to fight to be stronger. However they learn to do it is up to them.

Like Cata I'd like to see Anrokku stay. It would give normal humans a choice, and it would feel like you have more control over your character. Yuri's shadow ability was something I was particularly proud of, despite him having moved on into Shinigami territory. Along with this I would like to see the 'customizable' abilities stay with it. Each Zanpak-to are unique as is every Hollow, and so on.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:31 pm

Oh. Another idea involving the vague plot I made. I think some 'King' of these new hollows should have his own inner circle. Not just that but they can appear human, suppressing any kind of way detecting them. And they will have some major positions or connections in the government of Neo-Tokyo. This way they can kind of hinder the human special forces. Adds another depth to things, making the players have to weed out the deception within their own political structure. This could also create a group who are like vagabonds, defending and fighting the hollows when the others have their hands tied because of the law or something.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:59 pm

Actually that would be pretty good. Different members of the same group. The new 'espada' so to speak.

Well I know what I'm going with with my character on SS2. XD

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:02 pm


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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:29 pm

Holy crap! Now if only it had character sheets archived. *sigh* I used to have Yuri's page saved. But Jeez Kyro, you get the "Flashback" achievement.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:41 am

It didn't have Shiori's or Yukina's. But it did still have Jin's on there and a couple of others. It was a nice little walk down memory lane. Stupid msn groups and its closing v.v
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:52 am

so far what i'm understanding is this?
weigh in w/ur comments ppl

Timeline: Distant Future (?) - This seems to be the consensus timeline?

Villians & Org:
* Bad Guys: ? (Aizen like villain),
* New Hollows: (Name?), Faster, smarter, more powerful. They have more of a humaniod shape crossed w/creatures making them frightening to gaze at. The creatures are something new. Not arrancar..but a new kind of hollow.
* Old Hollows/left over Arrancar (who's still alive?)

Heros & Orgs:
* Gotei 13 - Remaining Captains (which captains?) w/new player (npc/storyteller) captains (maybe go 50/50?)
* Earth Fighting Force(s) both public and/or hidden

Ichigo Possibilities:
* Captain (outlived life as a human, now a shinigami or something)
* Dead (outlived human life)
* Group leader (alive on earth with chad and them)
(Which is best?)

Possible Locations:
* Tokyo
* United Area of Tokyo and Karakura
* Neo Tokyo
Notes: has its own defenses, though not too large.

Events:
Hollow activity increased without Aizen and his Arrancar there in Huenco Mundo as the 'rulers.'
Sudden, devestating 'bomb' that goes off in the currently peaceful Soul Society, leveling a good portion of it an making the barrier within it crack, weakening it.
Humans have gone into their own kind of peaceful lull and the earth forces are smaller in number than they were many years ago. Forces are being stretched thin with this new wave of hollows. But now they are being picked off a bit thanks to their own 'laziness'. So its time for a new generation to rise up and fight for the people and discover just who this new 'King' is that wants to just watch them all suffer and burn to cleanse the world.

Notes: Aizen's blade was destroyed by the thing that starts with an Hy

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:44 pm

-Villian/Org-
A new Aizen-like character would be a good jumping point for a villain. Although I'd rather see player characters taking the role eventually. Just adds to the story, at least to me, when a character can go from an 'insignificant nothing' to being the baddest mother fucker out there.

As for new hollows, I think we should start with the classics and then work our way up to the new hollows. The new bad guy would likely do this to simply get a view of any defenders that may be hiding, or any 'unknown-unknowns'

Maybe kill off the last of the remaining Arrancar/Espadas in a saga showing off the 'strong' or that they got weak or something. Maybe the new bad guy sucked all of their strength out but they don't know it so they're weak enough for the new guys to take out in said saga. This would hint at a serious danger coming.

-Hero/orgs-
Gotei 13: I kinda liked the prospect that not all the captains survived the attack on the Soul Society in SS1. That being said, in this case not all surviving the fight with Aizen and such leaves room for new storytellers or player characters to take over. The hard part is deciding which captains are gone. My thought is that we could just take the survivors from SS1 and have them around as their roles. Or kill the 'older' ones off. Or retire them. Or something.

Depends on how far in the future we're talking really. Soul Society characters age much differently than on earth. Time passes slower there, so it's possible they're all alive, but we need to know how distant the future is.

As for Earth Fighting Forces I think a single public organization would work. Make it a big one like the cops or something and most people wouldn't worry. In the black book, however, there may be a few organizations the 'special' join. The Meiou Temple could be around and training people to be independant Hollow Hunters, or secretly fighting the 'government organizations' on their views.

-Ichigo-
With Ichigo, I would think dead. Just Dead. Because then we don't have the 'Get Ichigo' plan to fall back on. Or to train with, or something. Maybe he's like Urahara, and took a Gigai and is hiding out on earth where only certain people can find him. It would be nice to have a Plan B for sagas we're not ready for but I don't think that's a problem. Shin throws powerful bad asses at us but it's never meant to kill us. At least not without some kind of fight we can handle much of the time.

-Location-
Neo Tokyo is pretty neat and could encompas a much larger area. I think it should be kinda like New New York in Futurama. And by that I mean built on the ruins of old Tokyo/Karakura town. Or like Midgar in FF7. Built above the slums. Not adding to it. This would allow Old Tokyo to be a place people could go. Probably rife with devistation, Hollows, urchins, etc. This would allow for various repeatable quests/jobs that could be done. Or serious training for those that want it.

Maybe a few special items for quest/saga rewards are around. Like, you go out and while you're hunting in the 'old tokyo' you encounter some ruins. After fighting your way through you find Haruka's old Sword in the hands of some thug that has Shinigami powers now.

Or while digging through the rubble you find parts from Jin's Mech which boost another mech's capability by X% or something.

I know we're going with an 'alternate' universe but that doesn't mean the characters didn't exist in some fashion. In this universe Jin could have been a dumbass that accidentally hit the self destruct button and blew up. Or a Hero that died defending orphans escaping a burning building because they were spiritually powerful or something. For every choice, every action, everything we do, we create an infinite number of universes where we made the other choice, didn't perform the action, or were different. But that doesn't mean we don't exist in others.

Are you thinking of the Hogyoku? The thing he made the Vizards with?

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:28 pm

Ichigo is the new Hollow King. Well Hollow Ichigo is. Think on that one.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:38 pm

Timeline: Year 2138 (So more than one hundred years since Ichigo give or take. I picked a random year. Lol)

Villians & Org:

*Bad Guys: The villian would actually be Aizen's zanpakuto soul. In the one arc the spirits of the zanpakuto's were freed and turn against the shinigami weilders. So I kinda see the zanpakuto as souls bound in sword form. Let's say it escapes when the Hogyoku thing destroys its corpal (sword) body, and returns to Huenco Mundo where it gains a body by taking over the body of the Espada known as Stark. (Or pick another. Stark looks more like him)

Or even a new band of strong Hollows. These would be the highest form of the new Fusionar and are known as Los Bestia (The Beasts). They can assume much more human forms and can mask their presence. But even in their human 'skin' If they are not careful those who are spiritual aware might see their true face for a fraction of a second. (If you have ever seen the show GRIMM then think about how he sees the 'demons')

*New Hollows: "Fusionar" Means 'Merge' in Spanish which i thought was fitting since they are a merger of human and animal qualities.

*Remaining Espada: Tier Halibel, Nelliel To Odelschwanck (Nel Tu), Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez..These three are still alive at the end of the Aizen arc. So I think they would be fun to have stay on with the new SS
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Hero & Orgs:
Gotei 13 - The Remaining Captains
1st Division - Commander Hitsugaya Toushiro - Fukutaicho Matsumoto Rangiku
2nd Division - Taicho Kurosaki Ichigo - Fukutaicho Kuchiki Rukia
3rd Division - Taicho Izuru Kira - Fukutaicho open
4th Division - Taicho Retsu Unohana - Fukutaicho Hanataro Yamada
5th Division - Taicho Open - Fukutaicho open
6th Division - Taicho Kuchiki Byakuya - Fukutaicho open
7th Division - Taicho open - Fukutaicho open
8th Division - Taicho open - Fukutaicho open
9th Division - Taicho Shuhei Hisagi - Fukutaicho open
10th Division - Taicho open - Fukutaicho open
11th Division - Taicho Abarai Renji - Fukutaicho open
12th Division - Taicho Mayuri Kurotsuchi - Fukutaicho Nemu Kurotsuchi
13th Division - Taicho open - Fukutaicho open

Kido Corps - Taicho open - Fukutaicho open
The Secret Remote Squad - Commander in Chief open - Fukutaicho open

*Earth Fighting Forces
Public Ones: Neo-Tokyo Anti-Spirit Force (Anrokku fighters) & the Mecha Task Force (gunslengers)
Secret Squad: "Shinigami"
Vagabonds: "Quincy" , "Bankai" & "Espada"

Ichigo Possibilities: I put him as a captain. I say he outlived his human life and became a captain.

Possible Locations:
Neo Tokyo - This was the name meant for Tokyo and Karakura merging along with a couple of other cities.

Events...Well I like them all. Lol

Notes: I hope we can keep out nearly all of SS1 storyline, location and old charry wise. Only thing we should keep are the races.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:47 pm

I had gotten a little idea so here it is;

A new kind of force is coming to make itself know with a huge target. Targeting the different planes; Soul society, Hueco Mundo, and the human world. Pentaculum is the name they go by a powerful force that has come to take everything by force. Seeing that the planes are being led without proper guidance and in order to restore proper guidance they must purify this world with the great summoning by the world of the Almighty One...so they say. This becomes a fight for survival of the worlds as not only do they have the issue of dealing with Pentaculum, but they also hold an issue with each other. The humans still are even unaware of the spiritual world, except those spiritually aware, and the shinigami's are still doing their job of defeating Hollows. Currently though Pentaculum is doing their work in hiding, trying to keep under radar so they don't get interrupted until the right time. suspicious activity is rising with the Pentaculum kidnapping people, shinigami, hollow and humans alike, for brainwashing them into building a powerful army.

The Pentaculum are comprised of six members.
One human (Lawful Neutral)
One Shinigami (Lawful Good)
One Hollow (Chaotic Evil)
One Quincy (Chaotic Good)
One Togabito (Neutral Evil)
One Bount (Lawful Evil)

There is something interesting about them though, while they are a total members of Six Generals, there is only five walking out and about. The sixth member is the Togabito in which they five generals must come together and summon him from the deepest depth of hell with an secret forbidden spell, which requires the sacrifice of several thousand souls and blood sacrifice in order to open up a secret gateway into hell.

Once the sixth general is summoned there is another ceremony that takes a massive amounts of souls and massive amounts of blood in order to perform their summoning pentacle in which they would summon Purgatorium, which means The cleanser in Latin, which is this beast of unmeasurable power that will wipe the worlds of all kinds of life and absorb them into itself and then "reset" the world leaving the six that summoned it as rulers of the new world, they wouldn't be affected by Purgatoruim, so long as they stay within the pentacle.

Another thing about them that identifies them is that they all have a pentacle necklace, they wear around their necks, and a pentacle ring, they wear around their little finger on their right hand, which provides them with a absolute defense that nothing can penetrate.

when performing their ceremonies they have to stand in a particular position in which they will stand at the five points of the pentacle, so that when their energies converge it makes a pentacle. With the Sixth member standing in the center of the five and performing the ritual as he holds all the Pentaculum's pentacles in his left hand and the consecrated knife in his right hand in which he would then shout out a chant in order to summon Purgatorium.

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anrokku aren't any different from Fullbringers, they are essentially the same thing. It would just be easier to just simply take out the term Anrokku and call it the appropriate Bleach term "Fullbringer"
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:33 pm

Well Anrokku was the term Shin made up to describe Orihime and Chad's powers. Fullbringers are completely different if you read the definition I posted about them. THey are like Hollow offspring in human form in a sense. Orihime and Chad couldn't do what they do and aren't considered Fullbringers. I've sen them called Special Humans in the anime. But no official term for what they can do.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:14 am

Actually it has been stated that Chad is a Fullbringer. Aside from the obvious of his abilities are of hollow origin.

The only one that isn't a Fullbringer is Orihime as it has been stated in the series that her abilities are more like a Zanpaktou.

Fullbringers are indeed described in that way, and Ichigo is another Fullbringer as well. So ichigo is a Visard/ Fullbringer. ( thought it is uncertain whether or not he still had his visard abilities)

in the description it states that the fullbringers each have a parent that have been attacked, before they were born, by a hollow in which traces of the hollows powers had leaked into them while they were still in the womb.

that doesn't mean it's a requirement to have a parent attacked by a hollow in order to obtain Fullbringer powers. It simply means that you need to be exposed to the powers of the hollow, kinda like radiation, and allow for it to combine with you.

Shin himself has stated that he had only made anrokku to describe what chad and orihime were, and the series has identified chad as a Fullbringer and Orihime's abilities as being similar to that of a shinigami, there has been even more proof that her powers has been showed to be similar to the Kido of the Visored Hachigen as even he himself states that.

So there is no need to keep anrokku around any longer as it has been identified.

Having the option to pick things is nice and all but its pointless where they are essentially the same thing...humans with special powers.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:57 pm

Shiori, I understand where you're coming from. But the Meiou temple was pretty special to me. I'd like it to be there. But if it comes down to it and nobody wants it around that's cool, and I'll back off.

In story terms, I think of it as a temple that has been hunting Hollows for generations. Like the Belmont clan in Castlevania, the clans in Kekkaishi, or something like that. To me, it gives a way to create characters that actively hunt down Hollows, without the restrictions placed on government/private agents. That being said they also wouldn't have all the "perks" of those agencies.

As for characters and such, I wasn't trying to imply we use them or their stuff. It was just meant as a 'hey there's cool stuff down there in 'Old Tokyo' go find it.'

As for Anrokku/Fullbringer, why are we arguing about it? Just make it optional for Humans to be Fullbringer(Chad style) and Anrokku(Orihime style). They're both humans and this, to me, explains why they are so different. Fullbringer is more Hollow-type powers, where as Anrokku are more Shinigami style.

Note: It is a sad day indeed, when I seem to be making sense.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:23 pm

@ kimi - i kinda like that plot line. it's pretty original and i think we can add some depth to it.
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looks like the majority is to stray away from ss1 stuff. the liberties we'll have will be primarily in any custom content we implement into the storyline after we get that squared away. npcs/orgs can be added after we figure out the setting.

so about the setting. w/kimi's idea:

"...beast of unmeasurable power that will wipe the worlds of all kinds of life and absorb them into itself and then "reset" the world leaving the six that summoned it as rulers of the new world, they wouldn't be affected by Purgatoruim, so long as they stay within the pentacle." < kinda DoRish

i dunno if we want to reset everyone. then that kinda kills the purpose of captains, etc. i think it'd be good to have strong npcs that members try to catch up with. if everyone's around the same strength, then it kinda limits available strong ppl outside of the pen members.

i still understand tho that the pen members will need to be stronger than everyone else. is there other creative ways to go about makin that happen?

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:43 pm

Play off with it however you like, it doesn't even have to per say "reset" everyone, but it could even be like a complete multi-player wide mind wipe to make them into the slaves of the Pentaculum generals. the point of it being is that their goal is to "Cleanse" the planes because they see it as impure.

It can be done in several ways,

Mass-multi-planes-wide genocide and then propagating everything themselves (sex slaves!! :O )

Complete mind-control
Mass-lobotomy
Control through power to set things right to how they see it.

The Pen members don't necessarily have to be statistically stronger then the others. They could just have abilities that gives them the heads up in battle making it difficult for people to fight against them.

Like one of the items that they constantly would have upon them is the pentacle and the ring that would activate their "Absolute defense" which would be able to defend against nearly anything and everything ( only like extremely powerful attacked would be able to strike through it) but at the same time it could even take the weaker attacks absorb it and send it right back at their attackers.

It's a lot to play with really, just a matter of what you wanna do.
Let's brainstorm more!! ^.^!!
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:15 pm

That sounds a lot like Yuri's anrokku. He could create a shadow that absorbed any spiritual attack coming at him that dealt damage lower than his SP. It doesn't have to be a shadow so it's cool but I just wanted to point that out.

I like the idea though. If you can't overpower their SP or something then you can't hurt them. This would work as the ability of 1 of them. Each of these big guys should be unique I think. Don't get me wrong they should have something that ties them together but each of them should have something special about each of them.

For example they could all have this ability thanks to the rings and pentacles, but the first one encountered might be able to say, transform into a copy of any opponent he wanted.

In game terms if he were fighting Soi Fon, Ichigo, and Rukia he could transform into a perfect copy of them. Including their Zanpaku-to abilities. Their stats or whatever wouldn't change, meaning they'd have to fight with whatever they have but using say, Ichigos abilities. And if the other two aren't careful they'd lose track of who is who.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:50 pm

Well each of these guys are unique aside from the fact that each one of them are from the classes of the series.

One Human ( clearly he/she is going to be a Fullbringer)
One Hollow ( high chance of it being an Arrancar)
One Quincy (....its a quincy )
One Shinigami (....it's a shinigami)
One Bount ( The Reiatsu vampire)
One Togabito ( One of the denizens of Hell, I have more info on togabito if it is needed )

Each one of them are based off of an element so as to complete the power of the Pentacle.

1. Fire
2. Water
3. Wind
4. Earth
5. Spirit

and the togabito would be Void. (Unless shin states otherwise) thats how I've had it planned out. But yes definetly they all have something unique to themselves.

The common thing of the Pentaculum is their items the pentacle necklace and the pentacle ring which is what activates their defensive shields.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:27 am

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Traditionally in Bleach, they've not so much used power to over power power, but 'brokenness' to over power power. In Aizen's case, his strongest feature was his ability to control the perception of others; the new Quincy are primarily strong because of how they can manipulate their opponents Zanpakuto; and during the zanpakuto rebellion, taking away the Shinigami's weapons and using them against themselves was the primary weapon there. We could attempt something in that direction and say that these Pentaculum has some power, such as the ability to negate or absorb spirit energy, body snatch, hypnotize, distort reality, or something along those lines. Or we can take a page from Naruto, have them absorb a huge chakra source to make them 9 tails strong and call it a day. Either way, continue brainstorming; I just felt I was being too quiet. My official input to the conversation is 'I like pie.'

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:19 pm

When you put it like that taking it from the Naruto thing, that was kinda how I had written it out.

With the pentaculum kidnapping people in order to do their rituals because it would require a huge amount of souls AND blood.

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Cause their plan had like four phrases.

1. kidnapping to accumulate their energy source.

2. Summon last member of Pentaculum (The Togabito)

3. Kidnap more to accumulate their energy source again for their "Grand" ritual

4. Summon Purgatorium and cleanse the planes ( Human world, Hueco Mundo, Soul society, and Hell )
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:27 pm

the only thing that I disagree with is Aizen's sword getting its own thing. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever that a spirit sword could do that. I can see it leaking its ability and causing someone to free aizen, but that's about it.

I'm going to hope the Bount are back, that's where I kept my bag at. So far, I'm in for full game on this.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:56 pm

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I don't have must to give on the story line but here are some of my thoughts.

Hueco Mundo
There should be a much larger pop of Arrancars in Hueco Mundo. With Aizen gone they may have started fighting over control of Las Noches or just broken up into smaller groups.

Hollows / Arrancar:
I still like the Hollow Ichigo idea (PC Hollow Pop will most likely be Arracars may need to add a few NPCs)
- Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck

Espada
- Tier Harribel
- Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez

Soul Society:
The peace thing sounds good.

Shinigami:
Same old cast. All Seats should be open, and Lieutenant and Captain should come open when and if someone is able to take on the role.

1st Division
- Captain Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto
- Lieutenant Vacant
2nd Division
- Captain Suì-Fēng
- Lieutenant Marechiyo Ōmaeda
3rd Division
- Captain Rōjūrō Ōtoribashi
- Lieutenant Izuru Kira
4th Division
- Captain Retsu Unohana
- Lieutenant Isane Kotetsu
5th Division
- Captain Shinji Hirako
- Lieutenant Momo Hinamori
6th Division
- Captain Byakuya Kuchiki
- Lieutenant Renji Abarai
7th Division
- Captain Sajin Komamura
- Lieutenant Tetsuzaemon Iba
8th Division
- Captain Shunsui Kyōraku
- Lieutenant Nanao Ise
9th Division
- Captain Kensei Muguruma
- Lieutenant Shūhei Hisagi
10th Division
- Captain Tōshirō Hitsugaya
- Lieutenant Rangiku Matsumoto
11th Division
- Captain Kenpachi Zaraki
- Lieutenant Yachiru Kusajishi
12th Division
- Captain Mayuri Kurotsuchi
- Lieutenant Nemu Kurotsuchi
13th Division
- Captain Kenpachi Zaraki
- Lieutenant Yachiru Kusajishi

Kidō Corps
- Kidō Corps Commander, Unknown / Open
- Grand Kidō Chief, Unknown / Open
- Vice Kidō Chief, Unknown /Open

Onmitsukidō
- Commander-in-Chief (NPC of the Shihōin Clan / Or PC taken in by Clan if oked)
- Commander Executive Militia, Unknown / Open
- Commander Patrol Corps, Unknown / Open
- Commander Detention Unit, Unknown / Open
- Commander Reversal Counter Force, Unknown / Open
- Commander Unknown Division (This can be open for a site Unit)

World of the Living

Earth: Mostly peaceful, no gov or cop like Org hunting Hollows. Hollows normally only attack souls not living people so there would be a need of one plus Soul Society would 'replace' the memory of any normal human if something was to happen. That is there job. There isn't any real need to rename the city's.

Quincy: Larger it number then in the past forming into small cell groups. The should be the most organized of the Human forces with a Clan structure.

Gunslinger: A group of weaker Quincy with cybernetic implants the lets them use amps (gun like weapons) and heavy mecha armor to boost their power to that of a normal Quincy or even stronger.

Fullbringers: Small in numbers, normally form into gangs that stand alone. Work with other groups and have no known formal groups

Bount: Smallest in numbers and very rare. Normally heads of state or Big wings in the underworld.


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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:33 am

@Rek - Well the races are dependent on the players really. If there are only limited slots in certain things, yes they fill up faster but then players often leave because they can't be their favorite race. But I think I have an idea of what you're saying, though I might be wrong.

@Ash - If Muramasa, filler arc or not, could do it why couldn't Aizen's? It's a very similar situation, except that Aizen isn't dead.

@Kaguya - I like the prospect of these guys and would love to see more. They do need to be unique. And if they have plans like that, then there needs to be things we can do like quests or saga actions to try and save others from these guys. But I don't think we should go nine tails with them. I think they should come in but they shouldn't be the obvious 'big bad' until later. Like 1 or 2 sagas into the thing they make their appearance. Until then I think it would be best if we went with common hollows and such.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:47 am

To answer that question about Muramasa doing it and why can't Aizen.

The answer is simple: It is because that was Muramasa's ability. Muramasa is the only zanpaktou with the ability to manifest itself into the real world and another one of it's ability was to bring other other zanpaktous and force them to manifest themselves into the real world and turn against their shinigami masters.

That is why Aizen's Zanpaktou cannot do that.

onto the other thing of what you said.

Of course their going to be unique, no need to state the obvious. If you read what I type up earlier, you could have clearly seen that I wrote out "Currently though Pentaculum is doing their work in hiding, trying to keep under radar so they don't get interrupted until the right time."
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:03 am

Kaguya got to it before me Paladin.. Muramasa could do it. It was an ability that was personally his. Each swords soul is unique. There is absolutely no way that it would be possible (and on the other side, remotely original) for that to happen without it being an accident of Kurostuchi's.

Another thing that might be of interest.. is bringing Urahara back to Soul Society. Since the Vizard have returned, the only reason Urahara is staying in the human world is of his own free choice. There is a lot that can be done here.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:15 pm

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Ok, so for a few days, no one has really posted a storyline that would conflict with Kaguya's so I'm under the assumption that is a good enough storyline to go with given the fact that Rekoa's idea's wouldn't conflict with Kaguya's core and that we're moving into the bounds of organizations and NPCs.

Now the time is to get this into a ‘storyline’ form, something that could be put on a page to explain the site. Since Kaguya came up with the idea, I would propose that Kaguya come up with a mock write up. So far, to my understanding, I’m assuming it would look something like this:

“It is XXXX years into the future after Ichigo defeated Sousuke Aizen and a new force has appeared, targeting Soul Society, Hueco Mundo, and the Earth. This force is called Pentaculum. It is their belief that the planes are being led without proper guidance. Their credence dictates that they must restore proper the guidance and balance to the world. They have worked in the shadows until now…”

And from there, I’m assuming there is more content that would at least fill a paragraph. Since it’s a bleach site, not much introduction will have to go into the story other than what’s different about our site… I’m assuming.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:56 am

pretty much go from there..
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:53 pm

No dead guy you don't get want I'm saying. Those are what I think the guidelines for how NPCs should be set up.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:26 pm

Ashurei wrote:
pretty much go from there..
To all:
Okay, any input on what to add? I can put it into sentences if needed, but what other elements should be added to the "site storyline"?

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:26 am

xD yall out of steam already?

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:14 pm

Trying to think of what else to add into the storyline, but yeah....My brain is like blah...

can't really think of a mock up to write....so what else is there to cover?

List out what else needs to be covered so we can get this site moving.
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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:20 pm

erm... i guess setting the main characters like the NPC's and orgs
i wanted to have storytellers on the site (gms, rp mods, etc) to control the main npcs
these ppl may or may not have main characters, but they'd oversee the actions of that particular organization or branch of the site, etc

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:08 pm

I think the ppl who wish to do NPCs should come up with there own NPC to do a storyline that is outside of the main story. I this would give them more meaning and what not rather the guy that sells stuff or gives you pointless missions that don't lead to anything.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:21 pm

I think that's what we're supposed to start doing now; I don't want to run a NPC, however.

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:10 am

um, well ya. something like that.
so since we're making up storyline and npcs we'd want to make npcs that we're going to use
so storytellers will control various factions via the npc they control, etc.
since we're sticking to bleach, i assumed ppl would make bleach related characters or claim a character to npc

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:50 pm




The fire that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.

....And wut about the tentacle rape?

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:45 pm

Rek wrote:
Rek wrote:
I don't have must to give on the story line but here are some of my thoughts.

Hueco Mundo
There should be a much larger pop of Arrancars in Hueco Mundo. With Aizen gone they may have started fighting over control of Las Noches or just broken up into smaller groups.

Hollows / Arrancar:
I still like the Hollow Ichigo idea (PC Hollow Pop will most likely be Arracars may need to add a few NPCs)
- Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck

Espada
- Tier Harribel
- Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez

Soul Society:
The peace thing sounds good.

Shinigami:
Same old cast. All Seats should be open, and Lieutenant and Captain should come open when and if someone is able to take on the role.

1st Division
- Captain Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto
- Lieutenant Vacant
2nd Division
- Captain Suì-Fēng
- Lieutenant Marechiyo Ōmaeda
3rd Division
- Captain Rōjūrō Ōtoribashi
- Lieutenant Izuru Kira
4th Division
- Captain Retsu Unohana
- Lieutenant Isane Kotetsu
5th Division
- Captain Shinji Hirako
- Lieutenant Momo Hinamori
6th Division
- Captain Byakuya Kuchiki
- Lieutenant Renji Abarai
7th Division
- Captain Sajin Komamura
- Lieutenant Tetsuzaemon Iba
8th Division
- Captain Shunsui Kyōraku
- Lieutenant Nanao Ise
9th Division
- Captain Kensei Muguruma
- Lieutenant Shūhei Hisagi
10th Division
- Captain Tōshirō Hitsugaya
- Lieutenant Rangiku Matsumoto
11th Division
- Captain Kenpachi Zaraki
- Lieutenant Yachiru Kusajishi
12th Division
- Captain Mayuri Kurotsuchi
- Lieutenant Nemu Kurotsuchi
13th Division
- Captain Kenpachi Zaraki
- Lieutenant Yachiru Kusajishi

Kidō Corps
- Kidō Corps Commander, Unknown / Open
- Grand Kidō Chief, Unknown / Open
- Vice Kidō Chief, Unknown /Open

Onmitsukidō
- Commander-in-Chief (NPC of the Shihōin Clan / Or PC taken in by Clan if oked)
- Commander Executive Militia, Unknown / Open
- Commander Patrol Corps, Unknown / Open
- Commander Detention Unit, Unknown / Open
- Commander Reversal Counter Force, Unknown / Open
- Commander Unknown Division (This can be open for a site Unit)

World of the Living

Earth: Mostly peaceful, no gov or cop like Org hunting Hollows. Hollows normally only attack souls not living people so there would be a need of one plus Soul Society would 'replace' the memory of any normal human if something was to happen. That is there job. There isn't any real need to rename the city's.

Quincy: Larger it number then in the past forming into small cell groups. The should be the most organized of the Human forces with a Clan structure.

Gunslinger: A group of weaker Quincy with cybernetic implants the lets them use amps (gun like weapons) and heavy mecha armor to boost their power to that of a normal Quincy or even stronger.

Fullbringers: Small in numbers, normally form into gangs that stand alone. Work with other groups and have no known formal groups

Bount: Smallest in numbers and very rare. Normally heads of state or Big wings in the underworld.


so we all good w/this as the basic gist of npcs then?

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PostSubject: Re: OOC: SS2 Storyline Ideas   Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:37 pm

wow...everyone just went dead quiet...what happened.

anyways because of the silence I can only assume that no one has a problem with that set up?

don't forget the togabito. he is the sixth member of the Pentaculum.

The togabito for more information on them watch the 4th Bleach movie. It's talks all about them.

Bleach 4th movie: Hell Chapter.

The togabito (Sinners) are the horrible citizens of Hell.
For more information look here as well; http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Togabito
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